Women Demand Younger Passenger Give Up Her Seat, Regret It After Conductor Gets Involved Interview With Author
Just because someone looks younger than you does not mean that you automatically deserve to take their seat from them. For onc, it might actually be their seat! On top of that, they may have a disability that isn’t visibly obvious. Unfortunately, some older people believe they’re entitled to everyone else’s seats on public transportation.
Redditor u/Ladylottington72 turned to the r/MaliciousCompliance online community to share a recent spot of drama that hopped in alongside her on the train. The OP, who has a seizure disorder, opened up about how a couple of older women tried to force her to move out of her seat. However, the situation took an unexpectedly wholesome turn later on. Read on for the full story!
We reached out to the author of the post, u/Ladylottington72, and she was kind enough to share her thoughts on what happened on the train and revealed how her seizures affect her day-to-day life. You’ll find Bored Panda’s full interview with her below.
Being polite and courteous is the least anyone can do while on public transport
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One woman, who has a seizure disorder, shared how a pair of older passengers wanted her seat at all costs
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The story took an unexpected but wholesome twist
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“My first thought was panic because I didn’t want to cause a scene”
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Bored Panda asked u/Ladylottington72 about what her first reaction was when the two older women demanded that she leave her seat. “My first thought was panic because I didn’t want to cause a scene,” she told us.
“But at the same time, I knew that I was entitled to my seat. I think they just made up their minds before I even spoke, based on the fact that I’m a 28-year-old woman who looks ‘normal,'” the author of the viral post shared her take on why the women behaved so rudely toward her.
The OP also shared how her seizure disorder has affected her life. ” My seizures don’t bother me so much at the moment, as I’m taking medication to keep them under control,” u/Ladylottington72 opened up to Bored Panda.
“I have a regular work pattern which really helps. Being sleep-deprived or stressed can aggravate it, which is what made me more nervous about the whole ordeal,” she said.
“The worst thing is I haven’t been able to drive since 2020 when I had a seizure driving, but I can reapply now. I wasn’t about to ruin my chances of getting back my license because of a train journey!”
Meanwhile, we wanted to get the author’s take on what everyone could do to be more aware of ‘invisible’ disabilities. According to the OP, it’s a difficult question and she can’t speak for every single person and individual disabilities.
“I think the best thing you can do is treat everyone with kindness. People shouldn’t have to advertise outwardly that they may have a disability in order to be taken seriously,” she said.
“Lanyards help, but they can be a little uncomfortable to display. I don’t think there’s a straightforward answer, but talking about it is the best way forward,” u/Ladylottington72 shared.
Unfortunately, some passengers might question whether someone is disabled if their disability is not immediately obvious
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The author of the post revealed on Reddit that the conductor gave her and her cat a seat in first-class, upon learning that she has a seizure disorder. Not only that, but she also gave her water and a snack. So after having to deal with a couple of extremely entitled passengers who looked down on her, the OP was actually rewarded with an upgrade.
However, this doesn’t change the fact that her fellow passengers were very rude to her. Not only did they want her to move out of her seat, they completely ignored the information that she had a disability. One of the issues with non-visible disabilities is that some folks believe they’re either ‘made up’ or ‘not as serious.’ Which, obviously, isn’t the case.
According to ‘Prevention,’ sooner or later, individuals with ‘invisible’ disabilities may run into situations on public transportation where they’re denied use of accessible seats for disabled people. Or they meet someone who questions whether they’re ‘really’ disabled.
Something that can help in these instances is having a card (like the author of the story) that explains the situation. Alternatively, the person could wear a shirt or have some sort of marker that explains their disability without them having to constantly do so in person.
Alternatively, if someone asks you why you’re taking up a disabled seat, you can be very upfront and keep things simple. You could answer: “I am disabled.” You don’t have to give strangers your entire life story. They’re not entitled to it.
Asking the staff or other passengers for help is a good way to solve conflicts
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If they continue to harass you, get in touch with a conductor or another member of staff and ask for assistance. Failing that, ask your fellow passengers for assistance. Many people might feel awkward stepping in to help a complete stranger in need because they assume someone else will aid them (hello, bystander effect). However, when you address someone directly, they’re more likely to step up and lend a helping hand.
Meanwhile, if someone’s trying to force you to leave your seat, it’s important not to be sucked into their ‘game.’ Stay as calm and respectful as you can. Explain to them that your seat is actually yours and then get on with your day.
On the flip side, if you genuinely need a seat on public transportation but everything’s taken, you should definitely ask your fellow passengers if you could take theirs. You could briefly explain to them that you have a disability, that you’re pregnant, or elderly, or recently got injured.
Even though you may be in the right, have the conversation as politely as possible. And ask someone else if they refuse. After all, nobody is entitled to anyone else’s seat. Though there are usually a few kindhearted people who are more than happy to give up theirs!
Many readers were very supportive of the author after what she went through
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The only way this story could be improved would have been in the conductor had asked the younger person to follow them, and then loudly announced they were being moved to first class as compensation for the rudeness they had just suffered from fellow passengers.
Or passed by the two old bitches and said she moved OP to first class, so their reserved seats are available now.
Haha that would have been hilarious, either way I'm glad the conductor had twice as many braincells as those two fools combined
Middle-aged is not old enough to demand others to make sacrifices for you! And, before someone goes "You young people!!!": I'm 59
Agreed that it goes by need, not age. Around age 60, I gave my seat to a 20-something woman because she was holding a pole as if her life depended on it. Not sure if she had a disorder or wasn't feeling well, but she looked so grateful and relieved. Another time, I was sore from walking too long (so self-inflicted) and a young woman gave me her seat, for which I was grateful and relieved.
That's actually a very clever way of thinking about it going by need then age
I’m 67 and if I wasn’t in a very bad shoulder situation ( just had surgery in the left one. When that arm can take on everything I’ll have the right one done) I would have given my seat to the 20-something. She may have never been on the subway before and therefore didn’t know the physical “rules” about how to stand on the trip without nearly falling over and saving yanking her shoulder out on certain quick stops by the driver. I rode these for 5 years home and back in high school. There’s a technique that never leaves you. We used to stand with an armful of books and never hold on to anything. Yep. Youth over age on this one. Sit down and feel safe. Leave this one to the veteran riders🤣
Here's the thing though. You're forgetting something. Your age, 59, doesn't matter. You're a cool person. You think like a cool person. You'll still think like a cool person when you're 90. Entitled, self-important walnuts don't think like cool people. Your entire paradigm is different.
Last year, when I was 46, going home with a tram from hospital, still in some pain, after a complicated operation and 2 weeks in hospital, from what one in intensive station, this exactly situation was played for me with a 60-ish-like couple. I said to them sorry, no, but they were making a scene. Then I said to them, okay, you can have my seat, but I will faint in a few minutes. They were laughing. And I fainted after a few minutes standing. They caused an emergency for the whole route of that tram, at least 15-20 minutes delay.
Lucky her, she did get upgraded to First. But…she had a reservation for that seat right? Then why should she move at all? The rudeness of the MAW didn’t even entitle them to any sort of interaction. Those kind of people need to be told to f**k off.
They definitely need to be told to fück off, but I get the train conductor's point of view, especially on an overbooked train. You need to check hundreds of tickets, people are blocking the aisle or have trouble finding their seats, some confused people are in the wrong train, and so on. She could start arguing with the two women, but that would probably just cost time and at this point the two women and the conductor probably block of the aisle, so other people looking for seats can't get past them. Letting the two women "win" and upgrading their "victim" is probably the fastest way to settle this, without anyone complaining.
@Terran: Yes, you make a very good point. I just fear that setting these kind of precedents enables that type of behaviour. I myself probably would have shown that woman my reservation and then popped in my earbuds and ignored her
I *think* it's the elderly woman who doesn't have a seat; rather than oust her, the conductor made an executive decision.
Yup, the elderly woman didn't have a seat; the young one did, and yet it was the middling ones who decided to be nasty. The conductor did a great job. They defused the situation, and ensured the four people had a seat.
Because she did not have a reservation for the seat , she felt entitled and threw out the stupid ( please give me a seat ) wrist band or what ever..is she 2 years old ?...no she plays the poor me card, this time it didnt work..they should of made the silly cow stand the rest of the trip.
The only way this story could be improved would have been in the conductor had asked the younger person to follow them, and then loudly announced they were being moved to first class as compensation for the rudeness they had just suffered from fellow passengers.
Or passed by the two old bitches and said she moved OP to first class, so their reserved seats are available now.
Haha that would have been hilarious, either way I'm glad the conductor had twice as many braincells as those two fools combined
Middle-aged is not old enough to demand others to make sacrifices for you! And, before someone goes "You young people!!!": I'm 59
Agreed that it goes by need, not age. Around age 60, I gave my seat to a 20-something woman because she was holding a pole as if her life depended on it. Not sure if she had a disorder or wasn't feeling well, but she looked so grateful and relieved. Another time, I was sore from walking too long (so self-inflicted) and a young woman gave me her seat, for which I was grateful and relieved.
That's actually a very clever way of thinking about it going by need then age
I’m 67 and if I wasn’t in a very bad shoulder situation ( just had surgery in the left one. When that arm can take on everything I’ll have the right one done) I would have given my seat to the 20-something. She may have never been on the subway before and therefore didn’t know the physical “rules” about how to stand on the trip without nearly falling over and saving yanking her shoulder out on certain quick stops by the driver. I rode these for 5 years home and back in high school. There’s a technique that never leaves you. We used to stand with an armful of books and never hold on to anything. Yep. Youth over age on this one. Sit down and feel safe. Leave this one to the veteran riders🤣
Here's the thing though. You're forgetting something. Your age, 59, doesn't matter. You're a cool person. You think like a cool person. You'll still think like a cool person when you're 90. Entitled, self-important walnuts don't think like cool people. Your entire paradigm is different.
Last year, when I was 46, going home with a tram from hospital, still in some pain, after a complicated operation and 2 weeks in hospital, from what one in intensive station, this exactly situation was played for me with a 60-ish-like couple. I said to them sorry, no, but they were making a scene. Then I said to them, okay, you can have my seat, but I will faint in a few minutes. They were laughing. And I fainted after a few minutes standing. They caused an emergency for the whole route of that tram, at least 15-20 minutes delay.
Lucky her, she did get upgraded to First. But…she had a reservation for that seat right? Then why should she move at all? The rudeness of the MAW didn’t even entitle them to any sort of interaction. Those kind of people need to be told to f**k off.
They definitely need to be told to fück off, but I get the train conductor's point of view, especially on an overbooked train. You need to check hundreds of tickets, people are blocking the aisle or have trouble finding their seats, some confused people are in the wrong train, and so on. She could start arguing with the two women, but that would probably just cost time and at this point the two women and the conductor probably block of the aisle, so other people looking for seats can't get past them. Letting the two women "win" and upgrading their "victim" is probably the fastest way to settle this, without anyone complaining.
@Terran: Yes, you make a very good point. I just fear that setting these kind of precedents enables that type of behaviour. I myself probably would have shown that woman my reservation and then popped in my earbuds and ignored her
I *think* it's the elderly woman who doesn't have a seat; rather than oust her, the conductor made an executive decision.
Yup, the elderly woman didn't have a seat; the young one did, and yet it was the middling ones who decided to be nasty. The conductor did a great job. They defused the situation, and ensured the four people had a seat.
Because she did not have a reservation for the seat , she felt entitled and threw out the stupid ( please give me a seat ) wrist band or what ever..is she 2 years old ?...no she plays the poor me card, this time it didnt work..they should of made the silly cow stand the rest of the trip.